Hey! Here's the news article.
http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=58609
It's about an abortion debate between important Catholic leaders.
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35 comments:
Dear Readers,
I just wanted to start off by thanking Zoe for this wonderful website!! It's a really cool blog, and though I normally enjoy reading the posts and all your interesting - sometimes funny - comments, this time I'm going to tell you what I think!
Now I'm not sure if I understand the article which was posted, but I guess it's about abortion, because that's what the title is. I know that the big religious leaders are pretty smart, but they certainly do not know everything. It is important to have our own beliefs, not just those of the church.
Now, the debate today is abortion, right? Well if it is I'd like to express my beliefs on abortion. I, myself, am pro-life because I think that when the baby is aborted, it does feel pain and I don't want to support something that gives God's creature of a baby pain! But I know there are lots of really good pro-choice debaters and it would be super to hear what everyone has to say! There are a lot of really strong points that pro-choicers use that leave us pro-lifers scared out of our socks! Anyway, no one has to respond to my comment...I just had a lot of fun getting it all out there. Thank you so much for reading!
Sincerely, Charlotte
I am prochoice because most prolifers want abortion to be illegal, and I simply cannot stand for the government controlling a woman's body. It's a woman's body, which means it's her choice. There's nothing wrong with being against abortion, but I feel like there is something wrong when you feel the need to take away the choice from everyone else. Without abortion, babies WILL be born into unwelcome arms, and women will be forced into motherhood.
While I can somewhat understand where prolifers are coming from with their arguments, I do think that only women should be allowed to vote on such an issue. After all, it is a woman's body that is affected by pregnancy AND abortion. A man will never be pregnant, and he will therefore never have to make his own decision about keeping a baby or having an abortion.
But what about the baby's life? Shouldn't it be the government's responsibilty to protect the life of an innocent human being? Or should the government continue what it's doing -- sitting still while innocent humans are being killed daily.
Dear Readers,
That is a very good point, Strudel!_1234! It is important that we get to decide what's right for us. You know? And Alexa your arguement was equally good. Oh you guys are really good at debating! All of you!
Sincerely, Charlotte
I agree with Alexa. You don't think it's the governments responsibility to keep people safe?
A four week old fetus is not a person. And the mother deserves a right to live just as much as her child. You can't just force a child into a mother's hands. It's not fair to either the mother or the child. And even if the mother does put the child up for adoption, you can't force pregnancy upon a woman either.
We can't FORCE pregnancy on women? Who is forcing pregnancy on anyone? Hey, you have sex, you accept the responsibility of maybe getting pregnant. You can't just say, "Oh, I'm pregnant and I don't want to be. SO let's just get rid of this 'fetus' inside me." Pro-Choicers are always acting like this fetus is nothing. It is not nothing! It isn't something that should be just "removed" (or as I like to say, KILLED). This fetus is living, because it is a creature. If it isn't alive, why does it depend on its mother so much for nutrients and such? Things, or humans, that aren't alive don't require anything, they don't have needs. This "fetus" has more than enough needs to qualify it as living.
I agree with Strudel. I also believe that the government should not have the right to controll a womans body. The "baby" is not a baby. It is a fetus. So please don't call it a baby. If we were to take away abortion, black alley abortion rates would go up and put the mother and fetus is danger.
We never said the fetus isn't alive. We just said it is not a person. Woman can have pregnacy forced on them if they are raped. They a baby shouldn't have to be a burdin. It should be a wonderful thing when you are ready for it.
I think that once woman start to get there period, we should put them on birth controll. That way if they are raped or the inresponibley have sex, they will not get pregnant. We can pay for the birth controll with the money we are spending on abortions
Anonymous, if we were to do that, people would start to have sex at a very young age. Then woman would inresponibly have sex without condoms, and STD rates would go up. Birth controll, on rare occasions, doesn't work. My mom had a friend who got pregnant when she was on birth controll.
alexa: If you plan on being prolife you must also consider that fact that every people are being put to death because of the war, because they killed someone else and for many other reasons. There are many lives in this world that are not being taken care of the way they should be, or cherished when they die. But then the same thing would happen if a baby was born. All women who get abortions do it because they are not ready to handle a child. If women knows she is pregnant but decides to get an abortion is it because she does not want to damage a life by being unable to take care of it. If you can't trust them to make the decision of whether or not to get an abortion, how can you trust them with a child? Innocent humans are being killed daily, this is true but we must think about what our term of innocence is. The church tells us that all babies are born with original sin. So we must consider whether or not they can be considered innocent, or whether or not any of us can, as we all have sinned at one point and time. And about you saying the whole 'killing' thing. Well, in the beginning, when the sides for abortion were being decided on, the 'pro-life' group called themselves 'pro-life' because it was so much catchier and commercially appealing than 'the-group-against-women-choosing'. Many women do, in fact, have pregnancy pushed upon them. Ever heard of rape? Many things depend on mother nature for nutrients and such, like plants etc. but we don't really consider them alive. Same with cows and pigs and corn but we still eat them anyway. Isn't that killing a live thing too?
skittles_4321: You may have noticed that our government is not doing the best job of keeping anyone safe at the moment. Hurricane Katrina has left major marks on New Orleans and many of the damage it has done has not been taken care of. I believe I speak for everyone that I would not put the fate of my child in the hands of the current or any government.
First of all, roni's right. I never said the fetus isn't alive. But it isn't a person. And please don't quote dr. seuss (a person is a person, no matter how small) because I really doubt he was referring to abortion when he wrote that.
Anyway, even if a person did have sex irresponsibly, are we really going to use pregnancy and birth as a punishment? You're right- Nobody told them to have sex. They got themselves pregnant, but outlawing abortion WILL be forcing pregnancy onto women. And some will see it as punishment. Do you really want to teach women to hate pregnancy? Do you really want children to be burdens?
Becca you don't know Dr. Seuss wasn't talking about abortion. In case you didn't know, he is a very deep man. And maybe his way of expressing his beliefs is through little rymes and quotes and stories. Did you ever think that one of his books isn't about creatures with stars on their bellies, but accepting people for who they are and it's what's on the inside that counts? Sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture. So before you "really doubt" something again, think about it.
But who knows? Maybe you're right. But all I'm trying to say is that it a powerful quote, so you shouldn't just toss it aside like it means nothing. Because it means something to me.
Hmm marseize...comparing a natural disaster to abortion doesn't make much sense to me. There is nothing we can do to stop a hurricane from coming. Abortion, however, is a CHOICE. Sure, innocent lives were slaughtered during Hurricane Katrina. Sure, it was awful. Lives were lost during something we could NOT control. Why make it available for more lives to be lost with something that we can?
skittles_4321: A rape-induced pregnancy is completely unwanted disaster. Some pregnancies are also unexpected even if someone is doing something to prevent them, as with the case of roni's mother's friend. Also, we did have a chance of stopping hurricane katrina BUT our president ignored the warning signs and put someone completely incompetent in charge of the rescue stuff. Another reason why I would not put the life of my child in the hands of our government.
Umm....okay sorry about the quote then. You go ahead and quote dr seuss all you want.
And i don't think marseize was comparing abortion to the hurricane. Perhaps you should also look at the deeper meaning before you....doubt. The fact is, the hurricane was two years ago, and the government is yet to be able to repair the city. Houses are still in shambles. Do you really want to put a woman's choice in their hands?
Anyway, as I said before, it's too easy for men to be against abortion. So since about 90% of the government is made up of old men, I'm not exactly sure I want them handling cases of pregnant women. Since A) they've never been pregnant, and never will be, and B)most of them have lived in very sheltered worlds where they don't understand the hundreds of situations women can be in where abortion is absolutely appropriate.
skittles_4321: And a pregnancy COULD be considered a national disaster IF you wanted it to be. Women had no control over the process of being pregnant (unless they avoided sex all their lives) UNTIL we discovered abortions. The infant mortality rate in this country has gone way up since abortions became legal BECAUSE people who couldn't handle having a child got an abortion instead of having it anyway and being unable to care for it or dying in a black-market abortion.
We should worry about saving people who are already alive before we fuss about a fetus. World hunger? Iraq War? Geniside? All the people who are dying to these already have a life and family. It is easy for you to say that you would never get an abortion. I would like to see what you would think if you got rapped.
OK, I don't even know where to start. This will probably be a really long comment. I'll make it in points.
1. Soo...it is okay to kill living "fetuses" but it is not okay to kill "people?" If it is living, it is a person. I don't understand the distinction between the two.
2. When Americans die in war, you have to note that they went into war willingly. These babies did not have a chance at life and certainly did not have a chance to defend themselves.
3. The women having abortions don't want to damage a life? So they kill it? Destroy it? THAT IS DAMAGING IT!
4. Are you honestly saying that babies aren't innocent? HOW? Even if they aren't innocent, then does that make it okay for them to be killed?
5. I've always said that there are special cases, like rape and incest, in which I think that the government should allow abortions. However, for the 95% of other cases in which the woman behaved irresponsibly, then the baby shouldn't have to take the punishment of death. Because although the woman wouldn't be "punished" the baby certaintly would, and death is a far worse punishment then pregnancy.
6. You should never ever compare a human's life to corn and cows and pigs. They're different.
7. ADOPTION. It's easy. It's logical. It saves lives. THERE ARE PARENTS EVERYWHERE THAT WOULD GLADLY TAKE THE CHILD. Enough said.
8. Ummm, obviously the government (and all those men) don't have a problem with abortion because it's still legal.
9. Women don't have a control over getting pregnant?? What????? You have sex. You maybe get pregnant. You have the baby. You give it up for adoption if you don't want it. Fair for everyone.
10. Lastly, ADOPTION. ADOPTION. ADOPTION. Don't act like women are forced to keep their babies if they get pregnant, if abortion was made illegal. Abortion is wrong because it is not the only option for pregnant women besides keeping the baby. IT IS WRONG! Why must one life die when two lives could live?
roni: fuss about the fetus. *laughs* Good one.
alexa:
1) Define 'living'. Is something that is purely dependent on nutrients from it's mother living? If so than so are cows. And we kill THEM without much fuss.
2) If you are drafted you did not go to war willingly. We kill many people who are unable to defend themselves everyday in Iraq but that appears to be okay. And these are people with LIVES already. Sucky ones, yes, but still lives.
3) Wouldn't you agree that by killing something that is not aware of it's existence is kinder than letting it live a full life of lack of substantial care? That kind of child could lead to be the next mass murderer because of lack of nurturing by the mother simply because she was unable to care for it.
4) I am not saying that baby's are not innocent, though once again I would like to know your definition of innocent. But considering this blog is called 'why i love jesus' I assumed it might have something to do with God and therefore have something to do with the bible and so I quoted one of the best selling books in the country. I apologize if my assumption that the base of this blog is christianity was incorrect.
5) In the dictionary the definition for baby is: a very young child, esp. one newly or recently born' whereas the definition of fetus is: 'an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception.' Please do not confuse the two.
6)How are they different? They are alive, 'living' so to speak, and yet we still kill them.
7) All the parents everywhere who are willing to take in a child already have or are doing so now. Adoption will not solve the population crisis while abortion will. So many unwanted babies are being born in Africa simply because safe abortions are not available. If they do become available the earth's population will stop rising a such alarming rates.
8) It's not whether or not they have a problem with it. It's the fact that the legal-ness of abortions keep coming in to question.
9) Women don't ALWAYS have a choice. Please see roni's blog about her mother's friend and please read the entries that mention rape and my previous answer to the whole adoption idea. You will find them informational and I won't have to waste space.
10) Please read previous writing by me and strudel_1234.
MARSEIZE! MARSEIZE! MARSEIZE! MARSEIZE!
About your adoption therory, 200,000 people in the United States adopt every year. There are one million abortions is the United States every year. That still would leave us with 800,000 children in foster care, living crapy lives, if we didn't abord.
Abortion will not "solve" anything. MURDER (Yes I said murder. Please go crazy) is not POPULATION CONTROL. I'm sorry but...ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Women shouldn't be getting abortions because it will "solve the population crisis."
Roni: You said that 200,000 people adopt every year (which I think is great) and 1 million abortions happen every year. Maybe more people would adopt if their potential children weren't being aborted. We don't need to abort babies because they're going to be having crappy lives in foster care. It doesn't seem right to kill a baby before it has a chance to live to protect it from the life it MIGHT have.
I just don't understand any of it. Abortion makes me sick to my stomach. No matter if you say that it's just a fetus...just nothing...still, it would have grown up, gone to school, even if it was adopted or kept by the original mother...it would have interests and maybe even debate on an internet blog! I mean, how would you feel if one of my points was "my mom considered getting an abortion when she was pregnant with me. She didn't go through with it of course, but if she had...you wouldn't be reading this"? Since you guys like to analyze what could happen (like the baby possibily becoming a master killer) maybe you should think on the other side of it. What would happen if this baby grew up - the abortion hadn't been performed. Where would that child be? If you're gonna predict what would happen to this...fetus, maybe you should take a good hard look at something a little more probable.
I don't wanna make you feel guilty, I just wanna make you understand where I'm coming from. This isn't just a bunch of stuff that my regligion teaches and expects me to believe. This is the good stuff. Coming right from my heart. Maybe tugging heart strings is the only way to convince people that this is wrong...this isn't why God put us on Earth...
Maybe you all should look ath this poem...I think it makes abortions a little more real...:
Abortion.
Month One
Mommy,
I am only 8 inches long,
but I have all my organs.
I love the sound of your voice.
Every time I hear it,
I wave my arms and legs.
The sound of your heart beat
is my favorite lullaby.
Month Two
Mommy,
today I learned how to suck my thumb.
If you could see me,
you could definitely tell that I am a baby.
I'm not big enough to survive outside my home though.
It is so nice and warm in here.
Month Three
You know what Mommy?
I'm a girl!!
I hope that makes you happy.
I want you to always be happy.
I don't like it when you cry.
You sound so sad.
It makes me sad too,
and I cry with you even though
you can't hear me.
Month Four
Mommy,
my hair is starting to grow.
It is very short and fine,
but I will have a lot of it.
I spend a lot of my time exercising.
I can turn my head and curl my fingers and toes
and stretch my arms and legs.
I am becoming quite good at it too.
Month Five
You went to the doctor today.
Mommy, he lied to you.
He said that I'm not a baby.
I am a baby Mommy, your baby.
I think and feel.
Mommy, what's abortion?
Month Six
I can hear that doctor again.
I don't like him.
He seems cold and heartless.
Something is intruding in my home.
The doctor called it a needle.
Mommy, what is it? It burns!
Please make him stop!
I can't get away from it!
Mommy! HELP me!
Month Seven
Mommy,
I am okay.
I am in Jesus's arms.
He is holding me.
He told me about abortion.
Why didn't you want me Mommy?
I didn't write it but I thought that maybe I should share it...
And should someone post a poem about a child growing up in a house where she is unloved and knows she is a "mistake"? Should I post a poem about a woman whose life was ruined because she was forced to have a baby when she wasn't ready? I probably should, but I'm not going to.
If you're going to pull the whole "imagine if my mom had an abortion. imagine if abe lincoln's mom had an abortion!" I can twist that around to my advantage too. Because what if Adolf hitler's mom had an abortion? It's not a valid argument.
And honestly, the fetus is not human because it does not have conscious thoughts! If I had to choose between aborting a fetus who has no conscious thought or memory versus allowing a child that does have conscious thought and memory live in slums or be transferred through foster care, or live with a parent who doesn't love them, I would choose abortion.
And was it roni that made this excellent point? I think it was. If you are prolife, why aren't you arguing for the lives of people suffering across the world, people with conscious thought and memory? People who are people, and there's no question about it. Instead, you're debating about the health of a glob of cells inside a woman.
And about the poem, most pregnancies, if not all, are in the first trimester. I've never heard of an abortion in the 6th month. If you can find one documented story, please show me. And if that poem WASN'T a guilt trip, I don't know what is.
Why do you guys keep assuming that these people will have bad lives?? Arguing that someone shouldn't have had a chance at life at all simply because they may have a bad life is not acceptable. Unless you are a fortune teller, you cannot submit me to tales of how horrible these children's lives will be! YOU DONT KNOW. If the mother doesn't want the child, she can give him/her up for adoption. It is not like these babies only have 2 options: to die or to MAYBE live a horrible life. Anyone, no matter what their early life may be, can do whatever they want. Even if someone had a poor childhood, it doesn't mean that they will live the rest of their lives like that! Don't assume that these kids won't have the motivation to make their lives better. Not giving them a chance at all is making unfair assumptions.
I'm sorry, but I would rather live in the slums, or in foster care, or have a parent that doesn't love me, than be dead. Once I'm an adult, I can move and work hard and make a happy and prosporous life for me. Early pre-adult lives don't set people up for failure, and they certainly don't define a person.
Also, how do you know that the baby can't think? It has a brain, and studies have shown that the baby reacts in certain ways to show that it may, in fact, be thinking even early on. It is not lifeless and it much more than a "glob of cells."
I do argue for the lives of humans that are suffering all over the world. I recently donated to charity this past month. There isn't much to debate about over people dying in Africa; I think we all care about those humans, but there is only so much we can do to help. We can't care about humans everywhere?
If you can't handle the emotion that an abortion can induce, like what was in the poem, than why are you okay with abortions? There is a lot more going on in abortions than just a "fetus" being removed from a woman, and that poem expresses a Pro-Life viewpoint. Because you often only think about the mothers in abortions, it is time someone showed you have a fetus might feel in the situation. What about their voice?
If skittles is allowed to poast a persuasive poem, I got some stuff for you. Go to the site below.
http://www.violence.de/prescott/hustler-new/hustler4.jpg
WHY DON'T I POAST A POEM ABOUT A WOMAN WHO WAS RAPED AND DIED FROM A BLACK ALLEY ABORTION?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? WHY DON'T I POAST A POEM ABOUT A CHILD WHO WAS ABUSED AND GOT MURDERED?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
I am glad stittles poasted that poem. I am pretty sure that baby would much rather be in the confort of Jesus's arms then be an unwanted child. Didn't the baby even say, "I am ok"? If you all believe fetus's are inosent, then aren't they going to go to Heven? Heven, or live being unwanted. Your pick.
alexa: Most bad lives are created by the lack of good nurturing done by the parents. Most parents, before having a child will decide if they think they have what it takes to bring the kid up right. If they don't think so, they will hopefully make the choice not to get pregnant. There are not enough parents in this world and too many children for all the children to be adopted. I repeat the fact that one child is born every three seconds. And all the parents in the world that exist doesn't raise that fast.
And many kids are burdened, hurt or emotionally scarred by the incorrect raising that their parents did. Many children are abused, both physically and emotionally because the parents are just unsure of how to handle them. They are not ready nor even trying to take good care of their child.
And sorry to say this but the fetus is basically just a glob of cells.
I am totally for caring about humans everywhere. But does a fetus really fit the bill? In the dictionary the definition of human is: of, relating to, or characteristic of people or human beings. So, your pick.
The pro-life view expressed in that poem was filled with facts that were untrue and just basically based on a loose idea of what a fetus goes through. A fetus cannot think or else it would learn how to speak earlier.
Fetus's don't have a voice.
anonymous: That picture was uncalled for and I really don't know what side it was supposed to be for BUT...
roni: Good point.
skittles_4321: About your poem. Wanna hear mine?
Month 1:
I believe you said that the baby is what... 8 inches long? Actually, it's only 0.1-0.2 mm.
Anything that small cannot have all of the organs that it will need for life yet.
Considering how it is really just a blob of cells I really don't think it can hear.
Therefore, it probably doesn't have feet or legs or whatever considering it's length. If it does it looks like a baby octopus. Cute.
Month 2
This is when the fetus really begins to develop. It becomes an embryo, like a chicken does in it's egg. It gets a heart beat, but not, however, thumbs, and most definitely NOT a mouth with which to suck the thumb.
I repeat, it is an EMBRYO LIKE A CHICKEN, NOT A BABY. Please see the definition of baby I have written in a previous post. We eat chicken eggs all the time, killing the chicken that was a life in the opinion of all pro-lifers. But we eat them anyway.
Month 3
I will not even start.
Month 4
The hair does not begin to grow, it POSSIBLY begins to form a scalp hair pattern.
It does not begin to grow hair. See above.
The fetus doesn't exercise, it just pisses every 45 minutes or so.
It does not yet have fingers, it just has arms and legs. It is not conscious of how it moves them.
Month 5:
The thing is a FETUS
It can't think or feel.
Month 6:
At this point in the pregnancy, in order to get an abortion the doctor wouldn't use a NEEDLE. And the fetus wouldn't know what the thing was.
Cells die in our bodies everyday, and for the first few months of pregnancy that's pretty much all the fetus is. I believe that I have pretty much proved that this poem is fiction. Fetus's can't think anyway so that poem is written from the wrong standpoint. Yes, writer's license and all but I think there are better ways of writing a poem about being a fetus.
Murder. Hmmmm. Would like your definition of murder. It's not considered population control. A fetus is not technically part of the population until it is born. And since a baby is born every three seconds I think that abortion should be made avalible to everyone as soon as possible.
And I don't understand your reasoning about adoption. People who aren't adopting aren't not adopting simply because the kid they want wasn't born. Their doing it because they DON"T WANT TO.
Now you are talking about fetus's like they only have a life once outside the womb as opposed to one inside as well. Either that or your saying they have two lives, one in and one out so to speak. Please clarify.
How about the teenage mom who was unable to abort and so had to drop out of high school to care for her kid? What about her life? That's pretty ruined. Lets talk probable, shall we? How about the fact that the illiterate amount of Americans are mostly made up of people with only one parent. How about the number of women who die in childbirth. How about the lives of women that are ruined because they had a child and had to spend their entire lives trying to keep it alive. Personally, if I was raped I wouldn't want the rapist's kid. That would be sick and disgusting. You have to give women the choice, or else your sending us right back to the days were we couldn't vote and no decisions were ours to make. We need to act on these things and give women the choice because there are so many people out there who would gladly take it away from us.
And do any of us REALLY know why God put us on this earth? To do his will, right? But what is his will?
We need to deal with problems that are going on now instead of keeping women from solving problems that could be. A child is a big responsibility and if your not ready for it than you should have the choice to abort the fetus before it becomes a baby.
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Will you please stop comparing a human life to a chicken life! If you could save the life of a human or the life of a chicken, wouldn't you save the human? So, they are different. Human lives are more important (to us humans) than chicken lives.
And yes, fetuses are considered humans. Unless you want to tell me that they make up their own species now? Ask any doctor, any scientist, anybody, and they will tell you that a fetus is part of our human species. It's undeniable.
And for all these children that are burdened and leaving terrible lives, it just goes to show you that aborion doesn't solve this dilemna-- it doesn't solve bad parenting. Because abortion is currently legal, and these parents didn't have abortions. Thus, abortion doesn't solve bad parenting.
I know that fetuses don't have a voice -- it was a figurative form. However, you can absolutely not say that fetuses can't think, because you don't know. There are no facts to insure that fetuses don't think. Stop trying to dehumanize them and act like you know what it is like to be a fetus.
By two months, the heart is functioning, correct. So, when its heart is stopped in an abortion, I think that would mean that it was killed. Which is murder. SO, logically, abortion is murder.
I don't know what your source is, but "Arms, hands, fingers, legs, feet and toes are fully formed" according to a MEDICAL website (http://www.babies.sutterhealth.org/babygrowth/fetaldev/bg_fetaldev-3.html) Also, it's funny how this MEDICAL website calls it a baby. Maybe because it is one. It is obviously much more complex than just cells, because it has organs and much more. It is in recognizable baby form by 3 months.
Eliminating abortion would not necessarily make our population a problem. There is no proof as of such.
I'm all for women having choices. I'm not for women being allowed to have their babies killed. Choices are fine. But it is the government's responsibilty to look after people. And I feel that the baby is included in this, even when it isn't born yet. Abortion should not be a choice. That is my opinion.
Alexa, we are not saying that abortions are eliminating bad parenting, we are saying not allowing them would increase bad parenting.
Ofcourse we would put a human life before a chicken. But a chicken would put a chicken life before a human. And you keep saying there is no proof that fetus's feel, but there is no proof that chikens don't have there own way of comunicating! Maybe chickens can talk with eachother! We don't know! So comparing two things that we are not sure if the feel or comunicate is perfectly acceptable.
And would you stop calling it a baby! IT IS A FETUS! NOT A BABY! Killing a baby just sounds way worse than killing a fetus, which is why you are using the incorect term.
Ofcorse abortion helps are population problem! Think of the million abortions last year. That is a million unwanted kids! And the number increases every year.
The fetus is a part of the woman. You should not get to controll something that is a part of her.
And like I said, for all the people that believe in heven, wouldn't you rather go there than into a world where you are not wanted?
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You don't!
"That is a million unwanted kids!" We killed a million unwanted children! HECK YESSSSS
I full heartedly agree that killing a baby sounds worse than killing a fetus. BUT abortion is killing a baby! It is the truth. Look at all the medical websites, the "fetus" is referred to as an unborn baby. It looks like a baby. It doesn't just magically become a baby when it leaves the womb.
So, it is an accomplishment to have not allowed a million "unwanted" kids a chance at life? And stop assuming that all the children that's parents considered abortion are unwanted! It's an unfair assumption; especially when you consider all the people who would love to take in these children.
OK, think about this situation. A woman punches to death another person. She used her body (her fists). So can the government get her in trouble? Of course. She used part of her body, and it got her in trouble. According to you, the government has no right to control a woman's body.
I'd rather have the chance at life than no chance at all. And who says that all those children wouldn't end up in heaven? Stop assuming that all the women getting abortions would have been bad parents, or wouldn't give their children up for adoption.
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